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October 1st, 2015 at 11:41 pm

How long will Americans tolerate the carnage and devastation left in the wake of mass shootings? Kudos to President Obama for making an appeal-- once again -- for commonsense gun control.

Having seen first hand the horrific aftermath of the Newtown shootings, it's abundantly clear a different approach is needed to prevent the next senseless loss of life. And the answer is not "more guns."

Somewhere in an Oregon hospital, daughters and sons are struggling to survive. Are your 2nd amendment rights more important than their lives?

13 Responses to “How long?”

  1. Petunia 100 Says:
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    It's very sad we have yet another tragedy like this. So senseless. Frown

  2. PatientSaver Says:
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    It is very sad, Petunia...I mean, if we can't be moved to act after a bunch of first graders gets mowed down, what does that say about us as a society?

  3. Jillybean Says:
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    As a long time lurker, who loves your blog. I admire your love and concern for your mom, and your
    Hard work and perseverance, I must respectfully disagree. To me, this will be another example of the failure of our mental health system. It's the guns in the hand of the mentally ill (already illegal) that is the problem. But yet nothing has been done to help families get care for adults with mental illness who reject help. I work for a community college in ohio and it's not the legal gun owners who have passed concealed carry classes (they don't carry them at school, because they are law abiding) it's the mentally Ill we deal with daily. But we all agree this is a tragedy. I pray it never happens again and pray for the students and families at umqua.

  4. Another Reader Says:
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    50 years ago we had guns but none of this behavior. That's because mental illness that caused aggressive, violent behavior was dealt with by removing those people from society and placing them in mental hospitals where they could be treated and supervised.

    Parents like Adam Lanza's mother were not forced to go it alone. These violently insane people became wards of the state, even those that were teenagers. As unpleasant as some of those institutions could be, they were necessary to protect society. The safety of the many was considered more important than the rights of a few individuals that were likely to harm people.

    If you want to stop lunatic gunmen that want to go out in a hail of bullets as well as the Ted Bundys and Jeffrey Dahmers, you have to decide to remove them from society before the murders happen. All the strict gun control you can legislate won't stop them. Look at China, with all the schoolroom stabbings. The shootings are more dramatic, but the problem is not the weapons, it's the decision to let these people loose to victimize the rest of us.

  5. ceejay74 Says:
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    It's bad. Do they have to make it so easy to fire so many bullets in a short period of time? Surely self-defense gun owners only need a few bullets in the magazine to defend themselves. Can there be a tiny bit more regulations making it a bit harder to get guns? It wouldn't prevent every massacre, but it might. I agree it's not the only element, but more regulation would at least statistically reduce the number of people that could get assault weapons so easily.

  6. Pnwmom Says:
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    My older daughter has a friend who's cousin was shot and was life flighted up here to Portland...such a tragedy.

  7. ceejay74 Says:
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    http:// www. rollingstone.com/politics/news/4-pro-gun-arguments-were-sick-of-hearing-20151001?page=2
    Pretty much says it all.

  8. PatientSaver Says:
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    I wholeheartedly agree that those who are mentally ill need more help, but that doesn't change the fact that guns are still entirely too easily come by, by anyone who decides it's payback time for all the perceived wrongs inflicted on them.

    And while stabbings in China are not a pleasant thought either, someone with knives can do far less damage than anyone with a semi-automatic, military style weapon. There's really no legitimate reason why such lethal weapons need to be so available in America today.

  9. My English Castle Says:
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    jillybean--the entire world is full of crazy people. There are mental health problems in every single country, state, city in the world. But access to quick weapons, often cheap, often without adequate background checks is the key difference between our mass murder rate and around the world. There is no other explanation.

  10. My English Castle Says:
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    Thanks, ceejay, for the Rolling Stone reference. I'm not hopeful, but maybe we can start the talk again.

  11. Livingalmostlarge Says:
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    I believe again the US has the highest rate of mass murders because we're the only 1st world country with lax gun laws. Yes mental health issues are a problem. But again we're the only 1st world country without a socialized, single payer system. Which could help the issue as well. But let's be honest. People here choose when to go to the dr because they can't afford it. So money is an issue with health care for both mental and physical issues.

    We need comprehensive reform of both gun control and health care.

  12. FrugalTexan75 Says:
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    It is extremely sad what happened. Yesterday I clicked on CNN and saw the headline at work ... Not again. Not again.

    From the reports I've read, it does sound like the gunman did have mental health issues. I think anyone who does something like this probably has mental health issues.

    Is the answer putting away everyone who has mental health issues? If so, where do we draw the line? How would we determine those whose illness is possibly harmful to others in the future?

    Is the answer stricter gun control laws? I personally HATE guns. My SO has one and he knows how much I don't like that. He feels he needs it for his safety as a delivery driver. He also knows I won't touch it.

    If we restrict guns, who are the people who will follow the letter of the law? People who already follow the law - most likely not the people we need to worry about the most. The guns are already out there - those who want it, will find a way to get it.

    So, what is the answer? I wish I knew.

    One thing I do want to say is that I was very impressed with what the head investigator/sheriff? did - refusing to name the gunman. Refusing to give him that spotlight. Maybe that approach is part of the answer. Putting 100% of our focus and media attention on the victims, and ignoring the offender. Not giving others ideas of becoming infamous.

  13. Livingalmostlarge Says:
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    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/10/how-australia-and-britain-tackled-gun-violence.html

    Why can't the US have stricter gun laws if every other country does and has lower gun violence?

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