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We have a buyer for mom's condo

September 5th, 2015 at 09:27 pm

My realtor got me an offer from a young single woman for my mom's condo last night.

However, my realtor met her when she was having an open house last Sunday, and the woman didn't have a realtor. She asked MY realtor to show her a few other condos, then decided she liked ours, so she allowed my realtor to write up an offer for me to review.

This is dual agency, where a single realtor represents both buyer and seller. In some states it's illegal, but in Connecticut, you can do it if both buyer and seller agree to it.

While realtors love it, because they get double the commission, most every objective source I could find online said it was a bad idea because it's simply not possible for a realtor to represent your best interests and get you the highest and best price if they're also working for the buyer.

I mean, if you were suing someone, would you hire the same attorney as the person you're suing? Of course not.

So my realtor told me she had worked with the buyer in an email to me; then in her next email, she said, "As you know, I am now a dual agent, working for both the buyer and the seller...." She positioned it as a done deal, when actually, I have a right to decline this arrangement because it is very controversial. So this ticked me off. In fact, the brokerage is required by law to have both buyer/seller sign a form saying they agree to it. She emailed me that form with the "I consent" box checked off, along with the opening offer from the buyer. How presumptuous!

I emailed my realtor back and told her i wasn't comfortable with the arrangement and could she refer the buyer to another agent in her office. It's still not an ideal situation, as far as I'm concerned, because my agent is probably on friendly terms with coworkers in her office and they could easily exchange notes and do whatever it took to get us both to close on the deal as soon as possible.

I called a friend of mine who used to own a real estate brokerage and asked his opinion. His opinion was that dual agency was perfectly fine and no big deal. Guess I still had to disagree with that. He said, look, the dual agent has a strong incentive to close the deal. Umm, yeah. That's very different from working to ensure I get the highest and best price possible.

He also said they want the highest price too because then their commission will be higher. Well, yeah, but if you do the math, the increase in commission based on their getting you an extra $10,000 in sale price is just $500 (at 5%), while an extra $10,000 to me as the seller is a lot of money. So most realtors would opt to just sell something asap because it's not worth the extra open houses, time, delays, etc. to sell it for a higher price when they only make $500 or so more, in this scenario.

When I talked to my dad, he only focused on how much lower the buyer's opening price was compared to my list price. The difference was about $15,000 on a property that's only priced at $143,900 to begin with, after 2 price reductions. I explained to him that no one expects the seller to accept the opening offer and that you go back and forth until you arrive upon a mutually agreeable price.

Also, the list price is kind of meaningless, because the list price could be absolutely anything you want; it doesn't mean that is the true market value. The true market value is what a buyer is willing to pay, and the somewhat soft CT market showed through other recent condo sales in my mother's complex that my original price was higher than it should be as I had no offers after 2.5 months on the market.

Still, my dad was fixated on how much lower the opening offer was, and he said t was so low he just wouldn't respond, and basically walk away from that buyer. I was surprised and disappointed in his answer (as I was in my friend the former brokerage owner's answer). Again, not the best course of action, in my opinion. I mean, you at least want to try to negotiate and see where it leads you. Pride never sold a house.

So in the end, I followed my own counsel and it seemed to go okay. The buyer is a 29 year old first-time buyer, who I believe lives at home; her mother wrote the 1% deposit check and was doing the negotiating, not her daughter. She's putting down 10% or maybe 15%.

My realtor agreed without argument to dispense with the dual agency arrangement and asked if i was okay with her manager acting as the buyer's agent. I said ok, but in a way, it didn't really matter because I had at that point already decided I would not show my cards to my realtor, although of course she already knows I'm generally anxious to sell the condo cus i need the money to pay for my mother's care.

In the end, the buyer came up from her original offer by $9,500 and I came down from list price by $5,900. I did get the distinct impression my realtor's overriding concern was not letting this sale fall through and getting it under contract asap. When I had naively thought she should be primarily focused on helping me negotiate the highest price possible. So as mentioned, I made the decisions about each counter offer and didn't really ask her opinion too much.

My realtor seems to be concerned that when the buyer's mortgage bank appraises the property, my condo might come in at a value lower than the agreed upon sale price, in which case, the bank will refuse to write a mortgage and I'll be left to decide if I want to lower my price to the appraised value or not.

It's possible my realtor was just talking about the bank appraisal as a way to pressure me into settling for a lower price. I really don't know but I'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

I'm satisfied with the final price although my net will be quite a bit lower after commission, attorney fee and the 1% conveyance tax in Ct. However, I did the best I could with what I had to work with, and I can't control market forces. At least I can close this door and be done with the monthly condo expenses (taxes, electric and HOA fees), with winter coming soon enough and the possibility of being stuck with an unsold condo for another 6 months at least, and 6 months worth of expenses.

So let's just hope the bank appraisal is not an issue and that the inspection goes smoothly and that no one springs additional surprise charges on me. Tomorrow she'll email me the contract which I'll need to sign.

15 Responses to “We have a buyer for mom's condo”

  1. VS_ozgirl Says:
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    Good luck with it all!

  2. Bluebird Says:
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    Congratulations with the condo sale! You did a great job negotiating and got a fair price! I agree that selling it before winter was key. Also, it's one less thing for you to deal with.

  3. Laura S. Says:
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    I hope it all works out for the best. It will be great not to have to deal with it over the winter months.

  4. Dido Says:
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    Glad you have a buyer and hope the rest of the process goes smoothly!!

  5. creditcardfree Says:
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    In the state I must moved from, your situation would still be dual agency, because it is still the same brokerage firm representing both sides of the deal. Our buyers realtor was with the same brokerage firm as our realtor. I think you did a fine job. I've found after selling several homes that most realtors are most interested in closing the deal...not the highest price. And yes the agents loss is always less as a dollar figure than of us as sellers.

    I hope everything goes smoothly going forward.

  6. Kiki Says:
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    If the appraisal come in under the agreed upon amount the bank doesn't have to refuse to write the mortgage the buyer can opt to pay out of pocket the difference and the bank will still write the mortgage. They just have to have the money at closing.

  7. creditcardfree Says:
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    I agree with Kiki, and the difference in sale and appraisal can be negotiated. It could be split 50/50. Our realtor seemed to warn us about this as well, but in the end a non issue!

  8. snafu Says:
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    Great news to finally have a genuine offer. We've been buyer in one city and seller in another several times and learned everything is negotiable. Your realtor wants it under contract as she has already invested time in anticipation of commission to come. You can ask your realtor to reduce her commission should any new issues surface. She is free to decline, you are free to reject another demand from this potential buyer and so on down the line.

    Should inspection reveal any deficiencies, you will likely need to fund repairs to code. Best outcome would be to have buyer pay a percentage of cost. Will you need to rent storage space for the items still in the condo or condo storage to facilitate buyer's closing date?

  9. PatientSaver Says:
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    Snafu, thanks for your comments. I remember when i bought my house that the sellers made certain repairs which were safety-related or which you could argue should really be in good repair. Like there were some electrical outlets where the 2 wires were reversed, posing a fire hazard. But there were certain other things they would not fix.

    So you're suggesting if there is anything like that, to only offer to pay half the cost to fix those things?

    No storage space needed; 95% of stuff is cleaned out of there and I will hire my handyman to haul the rest of the stuff out. I also plan to offer the buyer my mother's leather couch, in perfect condition, for just $250 becus it's heavy and bulky and i'd rather not have to move it. So that would leave just the bed (mattress and frame) which I'd toss in dumpster, the headboard, which I'd keep, a small cedar chest, the sewing machine and a few pieces of art, all of which I'll keep, along with some last remaining art supply stuff in lower level.

  10. Deb Says:
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    I think the agents could kick back some money from the commissions if the appraisal was a problem. It should not be hard to get something knocked off, as the sale was basically given to the other realtor. So glad to hear you have sold the condo, though! Another big bite off your very full plate. I don't comment often, but have to say I really admire you, Patient Saver.

  11. PatientSaver Says:
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    Aww, thanks, Deb. That makes me feel good. Smile
    I'm surprised a few of you have said the agents could take a little less in commission if the appraisal comes in too low. This is why I like to write about such details here, because, being relatively inexperienced in real estate transactions, would never have thought a realtor would be willing to do that or consider asking them, but now you've given me some confidence I would not be totally inappropriate to do so.

  12. FrugalTexan75 Says:
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    I hope the sale goes through for you!

  13. Ima saver Says:
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    In Georgia, the commission is 6%. We got our agent to agree to 5% because we lowered our price to slightly below our cost to build the house. Keeping fingers crossed for you!

  14. My English Castle Says:
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    I hope it all goes well!

  15. LivingAlmostLarge Says:
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    I think it's a conflict of interest and not be happy. If something comes back tell the realtor they should pony up half the commission.

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